Kanye West was characteristically blunt and self-aware as he addressed the ups and downs of his career in a sprawling chat in Interview, telling 12 Years a Slave director Steve McQueen it was "God, sex and alcohol" that helped him navigate the negative backlash after he upstaged Taylor Swift at the 2009 MTV Video Music Awards.
"I don't have an addictive personality, so that means that I can lean on what might be someone else's vice just enough to make it through to the next day," West continued. "You know, just enough religion, a half-cup of alcohol with some ice in it and a nice chaser, and then . . . " To which McQueen added, "A lot of sex."
West
also spoke about being in tune with his artistic ambition and spirit, pointing
to old Tupac interviews in which the rapper spoke
simply about how he "wanted the thugs to be recognized," a mission
somewhat realized, for example, in the stunning success of Jay Z.
"But
my mission is very different from Tupac's – and I'm not Tupac," West
continued. "But I think that when I compare myself to Steve Jobs, Walt
Disney, Howard Hughes or whoever, it's because I'm trying to give people a
little bit of context to the possibilities that are in front of me, as opposed
to putting me in the rap category that the Grammys has put me in. In no way do
I want to be the next any one of them. But I am the first me."
West added that he encounters a similar
kind of marginalization at the Grammys – where this year his latest record, Yeezus, notched
just two nominations, for Best Rap Album and Best Rap Song for
"New Slaves" – as he does in his other endeavors, such as
his forays into fashion. As he's stated, or
shouted, in previous
interviews, bringing his various ideas to fruition hasn't come easy,
despite his towering success. And while he said his goals as an artist have
never necessarily been about race, West noted that roadblocks spring up because
of the color of his skin.
"[P]eople forget that Michael
Jackson had to fight to get on MTV because he was considered to be
an urban artist," he said. "This was, like, the greatest pop star of
all time, and they told him, 'We're not gonna play your video because it
doesn't fit our format.'"
Still, West has no intention of letting
anything slow him down in the future. He's certain that he'll be able to find
the success he's had as a musician in whatever field he chooses.
"I'm
like a broadcaster for futurism, for dreamers, for people who believe in
themselves," West said. "We've been taught since day one to stop
believing in our own dreams. We've had the confidence beaten out of us since
day one, and then sold back to us through branding and diamond rings and songs
and melodies – through these lines that we have to walk inside of so as to
not break the uniform or look silly or be laughed at. So I hope that there are
people out there laughing. Laugh loud, please. Laugh until your lungs give out,
because I will have the last laugh."
West
is reportedly already at work on a follow-up to Yeezus,
teaming with previous collaborators, producers Rick Rubin and Q-Tip, for a
record that may see release this summer. He's also set to reboot
his Yeezus tour – which Billboard named the second most successful of the year, falling
only behind the Paul
McCartney juggernaut – with a string
of East Coast dates this February.
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